Fated or karmic relationship
Kind of interested about this. I have heard it discussed; not sure about on Sass but elsewhere. How do you know if a relationship is fated or karmic? Are they the same thing? What in two peoples charts would point to this?
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on -
Hmmm, not sure how to find vertexes or even what that is to be honest.
When you say what house does pisces fall in do you mean in our composite chart??
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Permalink Reply by cristal on -
Just go to astro.com and add vertex at the bottom. I didn't mean in a composite just what house pisces is in your chart..like pisces is my 8th house(sex) and I feel that with the Pisces I was married to and a recent Pisces I met! That instant sexual attraction. Or my 5th house is Scorpio/sag these are usually people I have love affairs with all 5th house stuff.
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on
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oh, ok. i'll give it a try later today.
In our composite though we have mars opposite pluto; even i know that's not a good thing!!
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on
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looks like pisces falls in my 10th house......my vertex is in the 6th house......
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Permalink Reply by JacQueuf on -
the north node is too but its more like a refreshing feeling that one gets not the "just right" the south node sometimes gives. theres still that fated feeling but both tend to be very different from one another.
for example, a person with a chiron conjunct anothers north node, can heal the person almost at free will. or without even trying. and the north node person, at times begins to feel stretched and needs the comfort of that south node. and in that sense, when they feel they neeed a break, they feel the need to physically be away from the chiron person to get time off. its sort of the same with the north node conj anything i guess. if it conjuncts the south node, it'll just be tons of no fun and old pictures n crying. ud basically be dating a cancer almost.
my suggestion? forget the asteroids for the time being.. vertex aspects i think would be more significant if conjunct by sun, mars, venus, or moon. thats bout it.
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on
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me?
the fish and i both have chiron in pisces.....
as for the other stuff in this post, i haven't a clue how to interpret it even if i do look it up......
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Permalink Reply by Midira on -
possibly this hurt you're feeling from the pisces male could be part of Chiron's painful lessons for you
Chiron in a chart, from how I understand, it teaches people how to deal with life lessons (dependent on the house) through pain (what kind of pain.. depended on the sign)
example, I have chiron in Cancer in the 7th house.. relationships were always a source of emotional suffering for me because I have a strong need to feel safe and protected, but I keep ending up falling short. But from those hurts I learned what I really needed in relationships, and with every hurt I know what not to look for
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on
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Hmm, interesting.....so kind of like Karma coming back to bite you in the a**....
I took the advice here from Intuitive Uranian and looked at out composite chart on adze scopesmart and was absolutely blow away by what I read. Here is some of it:
Composite Sun Quinqunx Moon
The powers of attraction that drew the two of you together are very strong. "For better or worse" describes the two of you. Learn little rituals that make the relationship work. Comfort, nourishment and understanding are key issues here. Your professional and personal lives are intertwined. To maximize the potential of the relationship, enjoy activities that are devoid of emotional conflict. Also, shed a light on your own and each other's emotions.
Composite Sun Square Uranus
Surprise. You light up each other's life. This relationship is a real wake up call and can be exciting and free spirited. It certainly seems unconventional, and at times unsettling and unpredictable. To make things work, you must be very open and share exciting options with one another.
Composite Sun Quadra-Novile Neptune
This is a spiritual union which means that realism and practicality are issues. Selfless giving is good. Savior-victim games are a problem. Is it love or is it confusion? Are you soul mates or cell mates? Strive to make a realistic evaluation of this relationship.
Composite Sun Square Pluto
This relationship is neither superficial or casual. You exude intense personal responses from one another. The effects you have on each other are long lasting. Put another way, profound and inevitable elements of fate cause you to transform one another. Ego games and power struggles are issues.
Composite Moon Opposite Venus
Fate draws you together to share tenderness, sweetness and light along with some sordid emotions. Your feelings for each other may go up and down, but to the degree you protect and nurture each other things will work out all right. This is an indicator of fertility and fruitfulness.
Composite Venus Septile Mars
Because of the strong magnetic attraction, it was almost inevitable that the two of you were drawn together. Feelings and expectations run high. Emotions are intense. You arouse each other. You push each other to the breaking point. There is an urgent need for physical expression. It is probably a noisy relationship. Anger or love, the choice is yours
However it also said we see each other through rose colored glasses which I certainly can vouch for. We have very different communication styles which is becoming increasingly eviden. It's not all good obviously, nothing is perfect. But the strong and intense feelings are very powerful ideed.
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Permalink Reply by Intuitive Uranian on -
Neptune and Saturn aspects, I've read are considered karmic. As are 1st, 4th, 8th, 10th and 12th house aspects. I've been in one now for almost two years and it is soooooo HEAVY and wearing on the both of us, but it definitely gives us a feeling of belonging together. He has LOTS of Saturn in his chart which is a major hindrance. We have at least 7 karmic houses in our composite chart which is overwhelming.
Moon, Venus, Saturn all in 1st house,,,,,Sun and Mercury in 12th house. And Neptune in 8th house. Not to mention we both have Venus in Aries and Mars in Taurus. My Gem moon is compatible with his Aqua moon and My Aqua ascendant matches his Gem ascendant. That said....we have lots of Karma to contend with but we also have lots of goodies in our charts to keep us both STUCK and wondering what the heck is going on. Our telepathic rapport is REMARKABLE and for me even SCARY. I've tried on numerous occasions w/o MENTIONING this to him, to remove this man from my life, who is by the way HITCHED as am I, and each time he KNOWS and pulls me back into him like a magnet! Ugh. : /......Our thing is one where I could easily say we love each other, though we've NEVER come close to saying anything even CLOSE to that but it's just THERE. It's so deep. (TWIN SOULISH) if you've ever heard of this. I feel in my heart of hearts that he IS my other half but I've kept that to myself. We've both grown some since our meeting though this has taken time. But at least thank God we're CLEANING-UP some of this heavy karma we have! Yay, yay!!!
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Permalink Reply by Pas de Deux on
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Oh my gosh, how do I go about finding out all of this stuff?? I need to know even if I can't do anything about it!!!!
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